jjbaker wrote:Tim, these people are generally members who are looking for free information but try to avoid engaging in a community.
They may not even remember that they joined this forum, most forum admins call them "drive by shooters".
Fortunately, I monitor and record how, when and why we pick up members, where they learned about the forum or who invited them.
The problem with members that get invited from other (not any specific) message boards is primarily loyalty to the other message board and it often seems to be politics, which prevents them from posting here. They know it would help the community and it would help the cause, but then they'd have to admit that they read "the other" message board and that can't happen.
If I had a dollar for every member who told me they would post actively, I could skip work this month.
If I had 5 dollars for every freeloader we've picked up over the years, I could run the website for the next year, without worry.
I am used to having my intelligence insulted, countless little advocacy alerts have gone out and people have consistently shown that they believe membership in any of the 3 and 4 letter organizations is sufficient for advocacy purposes. Doh, it isn't. Not only are we decimating in numbers, we can't even get a solid bunch of people to support a petition like this. Instead, there seems to be an attitude of defeatism in the ranks (see above).
Faith is what keeps this forum open, faith is what gives people the idea that a petition like this has a purpose and makes sense.
Topics like these need to be on the forefront and they should not slide off the radar. Its painful to see how ignorant our fellow pilots are, but its important to bring this out and make it a subject for people to confront. I am glad that people are annoyed when they are asked to support advocacy issues, it shows that they realize that association lip service and magazines and membership dues ain't making things happen. I know that I can't count on most people to come out swinging, hence I work with the press and I am proud to see that my gang did take the effort to help and do something.
The topic started on supercub.org, was transported here but hasn't made it onto SPA's forum, facebook page or other outlets.
I repeat the question I asked Dr. McManus in 2009. He could not answer it. Nobody has answered it, yet.
"What good is a C5 Galaxy full of heavily armed, well trained soldiers, sitting duck on a ramp without engagement orders?"
I disagree with your philosophy on faith in this matter, which often counts on belief without any real proof, however the recent past history in such matters as these has clearly shown many significant victories for us and all of Aviation.